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RE: Our Age & New reading please



John raises the Eno generative black-box aspect.  
It's been a while since I read about this -- what exacty is this?

David

P.S. Still looking for reading discussing the relationship between 
societies
and the musics the produce...  Any ideas?


> -----Original Message-----
> From: John Price [SMTP:jprice@intcpi.com]
> Sent: Thursday, October 29, 1998 3:03 PM
> To:   Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com
> Subject:      Re: The Story of our Age   &   New reading please
> 
> Music and Musicians are less important or relevant to "people" these days
> but at
> the same time music "itself" is opening up to possibilities that were not
> present before. I'm uncertain as to where that leads but i suspect it 
>will
> be a
> blurring between the lines of the whats real and whats a matter of
> artifice.
> 
        snip

> Repetition and simplicity and moreover context will and presently does
> have a
> lot more weight where virtuosity and chops used to hold a dominion of
> sorts.
> 
        snip

> I think that the key to the future is kinda gonna be like "Can a
> musician/act or
> entity establish something rapidly, deconstruct it and reinvent it just 
>as
> soon
> as it has appeared" ? Whatever it will be I get a funny feeling its going
> to be
> arcade or videogame like terrain mirroring the cartoonish elements of
> imagination that Music is already gravitating toward.
> 
        snip

> Another perspective I also firmly believe is that eno's little black box
> idea he
> came up with is gonna be the standard or of norm. Generative music is the
> future.  I sound like that neighbor telling dustin hoffman in the 
>graduate
> that
> he had one word for him: plastics  lol :) that you potentially would have
> or
> could have put together that will be the "en masse" Generative Music will
> be the
> standard for popular music in the form of software/applets we buy that
> will run
> on either multiple hardware platforms or "Microsoft Only" platforms.
> 
        snip

> And yes, I'm crazy and opinionated too :)
> 
> Regards,
> John Price
> 
> David Kirkdorffer wrote:
> 
> > Just to offer a non-"gear" thread...
> >
> > Seems like my question, "What is the story of our age -- what is the
> music
> > that reflects it?" left most people without a reaction -- seeming 
>either
> too
> > vague or too irrelivant.  OK.
> >
> > Here's what i was thinking.
> >
> > Maybe:          Jazz was the "sound of the 20's - 50's"
> >                 Rock was the "sound of the 50's - 70's"
> >
> > In the 80's we experienced the start of a kind of post-modern melange 
>of
> > things
> > In the 90's we're continuing along the same road -- but increasingly
> aided
> > with technology.
> >
> > Seems to me that drum & bass and various IDM-oriented music best sum up
> the
> > age we live in:
> >
> > Increasing in speed, relentless, fitting more and more intricacies into
> > smaller and smaller spaces, crowdedness, the comoditization of emotions
> such
> > that they are less trusted/needed and repetition, repetition,
> repetition.
> >
> > So, it seems to me that Looping-Music is very much working within these
> > frames.
> >
> > ANOTHER QUESTION:
> >
> > Can anyone direct me to reading (books / magazines) that may discuss 
>the
> > relationship between societies and musics they produce (the chicken &
> egg
> > question that has interested me for a lifetime.)???
> >
> > Thanks.
> >
> > David K
> > UNDO
> 
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