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At 07:34 PM 10/29/98 -0800, Andre LaFosse wrote: >David Kirkdorffer wrote: > >> Here's what i was thinking. >> >> Maybe: Jazz was the "sound of the 20's - 50's" >> Rock was the "sound of the 50's - 70's" >> In the 80's we experienced the start of a kind of post-modern melange of >> things >> In the 90's we're continuing along the same road -- but increasingly >aided >> with technology. >> Seems to me that drum & bass and various IDM-oriented music best sum up >the >> age we live in: > >I'd have to disagree a bit here. If there's any type of music that >would follow your jazz and rock examples, both in terms of social impact >and in terms of its musical role, I'd say it's got to be rap/hip-hop. interesting thing about hip-hop and another post about going to live in a culture to understand it's music.... I grew up in a white, culturally homogenized and pastuerized american middle-class suberb. Did not like or understand hip-hop then. (liked heavy metal, and later jazz-fusion, of course - the theme musics of suburbia.) moved away to a university famed (and attacked regularly) for it's multiculturalism and diversity. started liking hip-hop. Mostly "message-oriented" hip-hop like PE, KRS-one, Paris, etc. still didn't "get it" very well. For the last 5 years, lived in a poor, mostly black part of Oakland. It's so different from where I grew up that I guess you could think of it as another country in a way, or another culture anyhow. Got to know people a bit, feel much more comfortable there now. And I find I'm completely happy watching hardcore hip-hop videos on soulbeat and "the box". Go figure....music has a deep cultural connection to the people who make it. get to know the people, and the music starts to make sense. Now, I guess from experiences like this, I don't find myself reacting to new music with the almost instinctive "It's different -> I don't understand it -> I hate it -> this is not music -> what kind of losers would make trash like this" response. Now it's more like, "It's different -> why? -> what about that culture resulted in this music? -> how does this music convey those themes? -> can I learn anything from that?" Other things about our age: - world population doubles every 40 years, and it's pretty damn crowded now. - receiving way more information than is possible to understand, mediastreams are constant. - fundamentalism vs everyone else, world wide - mass migration - previously isolated cultures getting mixed together, trying to maintain identity and figure out how to relate to each other I have no idea what the musical results will be, but I expect it will be pretty damn screwy. :-) kim ________________________________________________________ Kim Flint, MTS 408-752-9284 Chromatic Research kflint@chromatic.com http://www.chromatic.com