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>Anybody have any knowledge or actually play one of these things? >I hear they have good 24 bit converters, but difficult to program... >anybody?........ I ordered a manual from Symetrix to check out the feature set, and it was impressively deep. It looked like a super-Vortex with full MIDI implementation, sort of like the Korg 8000 delay, but it did look a bit daunting to program. Haven't seen one in person. Travis Hartnett