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PJ, 1/7 Yeah, I thought it was interesting as well that Adrian mentioned looping so prominently in his as well. Although, I think that DT is right about looping not catching on yet. I almost have the feeling that people see it as a fad of sorts. You tell people "sampling" and they almost automat- ically think of rap records and those obnoxious 80's Fairlight samples. Since I come from a pretty much rock guitar background, it's taken me a while to realize the (smallest fraction of) potential of looping units and looping as a genuine means of musical expression. So I'm trying to incor- porate both the mondo chunk distortion and screaming guitar I love so much with the effects and looping capability I'm interested in as my next "project", but still trying to keep that "organic" (for lack of a better term) thing happening. I'm sure you already have it, but have you heard Gtr Oblq yet? Very cool indeed. I just wish they'd make it out to the west coast. Well, thanks for the reply and best wishes for a great New Year! Sincerely, Chris Olden