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What you are describing is sometimes seen in classical symphony performance, particularly if the performance is some obscure work. Mostly in classical performance, the audience tend to hold back more out of respect, politeness (fear of fauxpas?), waiting for "cues" from someone in the audience who displays the confidence to discern when the pauses between movements are and when the end of the symphony is. Then, applause erupts properly. In symphonies, the written program indicates movements, but classical music is very structured. In the more obscure symphonic works, improper applause sometimes starts to break out sporadically, but is quickly quelled when the bulk of the audience doesn't respond in kind. Most classical music goers seem to have the learned the capability of being embarrassed. From what you are describing, it doesn't sound like a significant portion of the audience has spent much time watching classical symphonies. I think you will just have to live with this until your audience comes to know your music better or you somehow explain it to them, verbally or with a written program. They probably appreciate what you are trying to do, and maybe would like a little guidance from you. Good luck! -----Original Message----- From: MARK FRANO [mailto:mfrano@plainfield.bypass.com] Sent: Tuesday, January 19, 1999 8:35 PM To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Subject: Hi Fi Bugs Concerned about Live Performance Thanks for the many responses regarding my recent post about audience applause during loop performance. I guess my main concern is that the subtlety of quiet passages is often lost in live performance. It seems easy to hold an audiences attention when the sonics are dramatic and bold but when the piece turns towards nuance and minimalism things tend to get sticky. Its almost as if a live audience is uncomfortable with spacial loops to the point of nervous applause. Our greatest successes are when we are playing to an extremely attentive group focused on the sound. This is rare as chatter and external influences always seem to contribute to the sonic landscape. I don't want to come across as a demanding performer but I know the power of our music lies in its wide dynamic range-- delicate textures to corse bold blasts. Is looping too intimate for live settings? Are we too boring visually? I too wish everyone in the audience was wearing headphones. Too much seems to be sacrificed. Perhaps recording is our best direction. Feedback?