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i been playing bars and night clubs ( included strip shows), also big arenas with dance bands, rock bands, cover bands and experimental bands...i just learn that most important thing is: there man waiting for women and women waiting for man, others are just waiting for drugs and a few are concerned about musicians and perfomance.The people just want a happy enviroment...i learn to be carefull with minor keys...you can play 1 hour in Cm, you make the audience go down etc. Happy enviroment to find laugh, relax, sex, relashionship, friendship etc.Santana always check the groove looking at the women in the audience, the way they react is a important parameter for his rhythm aproach and futures perfomances ( i think he looks others "parts" to hahahah!)...anyway rhythm transitions between songs are very important too. When you play at a night club there diferents "times" into the whole night : before the first beer...after the trird...the end of night ( after a various whiskies) seems to be the most wonderfull time to deep feelings stuff ...some people "needs" to talk loud when the music is going ( be comprensive...you are doing a social service to hahaha)...ok...just a few statments for the loop comunity from a south american musician. Good health and music for everybody!!! Julio. ---------- > From: Tim Nelson <tcn62@ici.net> > To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com > Subject: Re: Hi Fi Bugs Concerned about Live Performance > Date: Quarta-feira, 20 de Janeiro de 1999 13:25 > > >Or you could just enjoy the old trick of fooling them into thinking its the > >end, and just as they start to clap, go into the really loud section that's > >obviously the same piece. Smile wickedly when you do this. > > March 23rd, 1792: Haydn's Symphony #94 ("The Surprise Symphony") premieres > in London. > > It'd be great to have a time machine to check out the audience reaction on > THIS one! Or imagine the Haydn interview in the April 1792 issue of > "Today's Composer" where he explains how he came to feel the need for such > extremes of dynamic range; "...Well, they just weren't paying attention, > and I said to myself 'Joseph, you've got to wake those buggers up', and > started going through my 'orchestral stab' samples, and next thing you > know..." > > Live audiences have always been prone to distraction. It's only natural to > look around and check out a room full of interesting-looking strangers at a > public gathering, especially in the hyper-social setting of a nightclub or > bar (or a concert hall, or an art gallery, or the mall, etc.). It would be > NICE if everyone would sit and listen intently, but it's probably not going > to happen very often, and this is not always an indication that the music > being presented is in itself boring or that the band's presentation is not > worth watching. It's just that there's a lot going on in the room, and > that's just part of live performance... > One advantage we have over Haydn is that we can sell CD's at our live > shows, so that some of the audience can take the music HOME and put on > those headphones... We can take advantage of two very different means of > presenting the music, live AND recorded, and each can enrich the other. > > Maybe Hi Fi Bugs could start off with a few pieces of a more conventional > length/dynamic range to hook the crowd, and THEN preface the longer ones > with the sort of communication/explanation Kim wrote of once the room has > settled in a bit. > > Best wishes, > > Tim >