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The DSP 4000 has some amazing looping tools in it. Each patch is a unique algorhythm, in other words there are no preset algorhythms, just the building blocks. It is really amazing. There is a free editor which runs from a PC on their web page. The cost of the device is around $4000. At 09:57 AM 3/8/99 +0100, you wrote: >HELLO GUYS! > >im about to buy a new fx processor. > >i have a tc electronic g-force, and now considering to get the m5000, >but i've heard about this EVENTIDE too. > >i need SPECIAL FX mainly, not reverbs or such. > >eventide had this dsp4000, then the dsp4500 and now some ORLA. > >anyone has these or had experience with? > >i am totally curious. > > >a/d > > > ........................................................................... But they are useless. They can only give you answers. -Picasso, on computers.