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i would be more than willing to start this....that way ill have no drastic mis-fortune for breaking the chain...thanks PJ, i forgot this useful bit.........the mp3 files is a great idea but i have no idea as to how this is done, nor do i really care or have time to figure it out, im pretty lo-fi and a computer idiot to boot.....i agree there should be a time limit per tune and i also feel that if anyone wants to utilize (sample?) previous songs they should feel free to do so.....basically, i want very much to hear your music!.......by all means PLEASE continue making the L.D. cds, i have no idea how a project like that is done, but i do know how to make noise on a tape.......if you are interested send me your address (off list)......i think it would be fun and as bill said it would be a motivator.......if it is proper, we could perhaps discuss ideas on this project (on list)?.....michael