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Kim, sorry, but with undo I need further assistance. Maybe I just didnīt get the hidden message, but -the memory usage of what I tried to do was positively not critical at all -In the manual, I couldnīt check out any interaction between undo and overdub except with undo as an alternative ending. This does not apply here. -your feedback point is not clear to me at all. I set feedback to full, thatīs all I can tell you. Now what I tried repeatedly, I recorded a loop of 5 secs or so, then overdubbed it a few times in one pass or several and next I wanted to remove the layers I had overdubbed. This _worked_ but only in the way I described in my previous mail. I couldnīt really seem to control it. If, like the FAQ says, feedback is undoable, does that imply that each fed-back loop uses a "new" portion of memory and could that cause a memory "shortage"? But even if so, could that affect the ability to remove overdubs? My only guess is it that with pressing the button after some time, I maybe do not undo the last overdub but, instead, return to the previously fed-back cycles in the loopīs history before reaching the point where undo takes away overdubs. But I really wouldnīt say that either manual or FAQ point this out. Can you help? Manfred Kim Flint wrote: > check the FAQ: > > http://www.annihilist.com/loop/tools/echoplex/FAQ.html > > I think it answers you, if not let me know what should be added. It's >still > a work in progress, I've got a bunch of old posts and stuff I still need >to > organize into FAQ form. I can make particular items a priority if people >are > having trouble with it. > > with undo, make sure you understand how it is affected by memory usage, > feedback, and the way you overdub. > > kim > > At 09:00 PM 3/17/99 +0100, Manfred Bohnhoff wrote: > >Fellow Echoplex owners, > > > >this may have been discussed before, so Iīll gladly accept any > >information source pointers. > > > >I am still at the beginning working my way through all my new plexīs > >features but I find that some donīt act the way the manual suggests. > > > >In particular, what I found out so far is that the SwitchQuant Parameter > >offers the tree values cyc, cnf, off instead of just on, off like the > >manual says. I have no intuition as to the meaning of these. > >Next, and more annoying, the undo button WILL let me erase layer by > >layer but not in the way described: long presses are ignored completely > >while short _double_ presses sometimes do the job and sometimes donīt. > >This seems to occur independently from where in the loop I am. Same to > >single short presses to remove the "tail" of the layer. They randomly > >sometimes work or donīt. > > > >Bug or feature? > > > >Is there an update to the manual somewhere? > > > >Any hints are appreciated. > > > >Manfred > > > > > > > ________________________________________________________ > Kim Flint, MTS 408-752-9284 > ATI Research kflint@atitech.com > http://www.atitech.com