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In a message dated 4/27/99 3:49:19 PM, you wrote: <<John-dont know if theres a stand alone controller that will do it but i can do it my eventide 4000.thats no shit.......K>> Yikes--you mean, you can get it to send out MIDI continuous control messages from an internal LFO?!?! Does it also have to be controlling something on the 4000? (I thought I'd already learned that I can't do this with my GTR....hmmmm.) dpc