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Process your stuff through: Lexicon Vortex (heady trippy possibilities) Octave Divider (play in a range below your usual home ground) Distortion with the high-end rolled off or full on Ibanez Swell Flanger works nicely for unusual attacks of sounds Vocoderize your tracks (a recent track I did has vocoderized drums, vocoderized synth bass, and vocoderized drone guitars). The dynamic control here provides wonderful tonal variations. (This is the vocoder in my Roland VS-840 workstation). Put your instrument through an MXR blue box (interesting FX). Go to the local consignment store and buy a used, weird stompbox and try that out. Record your instrument backwards and flip the tape. Experiment with compression - that can have a vast effect on the attacks and flavor of your tones. Try playing through multiple delays, and/or split your signal path so that one path has an effected delay happening (octave divided signal leading into a delay, distortion into a delay, vocoder into a delay). Record a track with your instrument. Then record a second track at the same pan position playing the indentical notes and attacks but in a different octave (or interval). Then effect the results so that it doesn't sound like two instruments, but one with an unusual tone color. Insure volume levels for each instrument doesn't cancel the other out, but just enough of each to be distinctive. If that bores you, flip that track backwards. If that bores you, send the effected signal back to tape (or disk) and then re-effect (with a different effect) that track. Put a drum machine through a tap tempo delay for an interesting effect. Put a drum machine through a tap tempo delay and a vocoder for a weird, vocally percussive effect. Put a drum machine through a distortion box or tube preamp for that industrial effect. Bring a stereo recordable walkman on a walk through a park. Use the resulting field recording in your project. Steve Tibbets did this to great effect on "Safe Journey". Use audio morphing software to give a note the attack of a trumpet with the decay of a flute or other instrument. These are just some of the ideas I thought of to try for variations in sound. Don't forget to loop the results. Todd Madson Musician, Mountain Biker, Stunt Kite Flyer, BeOS/MacOS/Linux/WinNt user. http://www.waste.org/~crash/index.html