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>Topic suggestion: >How many of you folks routinely use loops longer than, say 10 >sec.? Within the context of FingerPaint and also with my personal looping I use loops of more than 10 secundos all the time. Part of my intitial attraction to the Jam Man was the 32 second upgrade. And then along came the plex with way too many seconds... But I seldom am looping riffs or motives, generally textural sonic landscapes of varying loop sizes. Frquently we will have two or more very long loops "brushing against one another and then some shorter loops. Add to this what ever we lay on top. Lately I've been making longer loops of events with silence in between. Three or 4 sparse loops made in this manner have yielded interesting collages. Patrick http://www.fingerpaint.net