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While I've often used pre-recorded sound effects to accompany improvised pieces, I used to have a very poor opinion of the use of any sort of pre-recorded MUSIC in live performance. However, technology has gradually re-shaped my view and I've found a way to use pre-recorded material without feeling as if I'm cheating... Most of my keyboards are old analog beasts with no presets (an SH-101, a Juno-6, a Halifax organ, etc.) and many of my other instruments are not suitable for use in venues with any significant level of background noise (shakuhachi, native American flute, etc.) or are delicate and/or present tuning problems (hurdy-gurdy) that makes toting them along to gigs unpractical. Plus, I'd have to schlepp all that stuff, and set up/tear down REALLY quickly, everyones' least favourite part of playing out. However, they still make some enjoyable and useful sounds that I'd like to draw upon live. I find that sampling has made the line a great deal finer between what I would consider a "pre-recorded performance" and what could pass as a "patch". I've also seen some DJ's in the past few years whose musicianship was so impressive that I was forced to re-evaluate my prejudices regarding my personal definition of "instrumentalist". Here too, I confess to a certain amount of snobbery; I still don't feel comfortable sampling from other people's music, but have reconciled myself to feeling okay about sampling my own playing, using instruments that for the reasons listed above I'm not likely to bring to a gig. That's why my rack includes a MiniDisc deck. To me, the biggest difference between coming off as "karaoke" and actually playing live lies in the nature of what's been recorded and in how it's presented, on how much live manipulation is required on the part of the performer (and how noticible it will be if you bobble it!). Long melodic passages, complicated solos, tightly timed backing vocals - this sort of thing strikes me as "canned", although I realize there are many performers whose shows are greatly enhanced by this approach. On the other hand, short pre-recorded loops of riffs, textures, found sounds, sequencer ostinatos - stuff that wouldn't sustain a performance by itself without real-time tweaking - can be PLAYED in real time with a mixer and looping devices, and combined with input from instruments (the ubiquitous guitar and bass) better suited to plugging in and playing. I can drop a didgeridoo drone from a disc into a delay, hit "HOLD", and use the resulting loop as a pad which keeps going while I change discs or play an instrument on top of it, and I'm not bothered by the fact that the actual four-second didge loop was pre-recorded in my basement. It's not like I'm pressing "play" and heading over to the bar for a cold one while my "performance" comes out of the speakers; there's still a great deal of real-time control required. Of course, it's impossible to play anything the same way twice using this approach, but that's what makes it fun. Tim >Michael Tuminello wrote: > >> Hi - >> >> my original plan was to do something similar (probably midi synth + drum backing only), until I saw a guy @ Sidewalk cafe in NY do this. He seemed like an accomplished musician - he had arranged string tracks and all kinds of crazy backing for his stuff. >> >> However, the end result for me was that I felt like he was playing karaoke. I had the feeling that he wasn't even singing or playing guitar anymore, and that it was all recorded. (Not true, but that's what it felt like to me.) At that point I decided that a full band was the way to go. >> >> Other people may have differing opnions (I'm sure they will), but you should try to check out someone who performs like this before you totally commit to doing it yourself, in my opinion. I went from no doubt that it would work to completely discarding the idea. >> >> MT >> >> Greetings: >> In the most recent issue of Guitar Player magazine, there is an article on the use of MiniDisc backing tracks for live performances by solo artists. This article is timely for me because I'm currently developing a repertoire of recorded rhythmic and ambient accompaniment to supplement my guitar looping for solo live performances. My desire is to maintain an improvisational element in my performance but also to give the gig some structure with the accompaniment, which I'm committing to CD via my new HP CD recorder. I would like to hear from other members of this list who are doing similar things. I'd be interested in hearing how others use accompaniment (what kind of medium, what desired effects are being achieved, etc..). >> e but >> e but > >