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Ofer Lehr wrote: > what is important to me is that i would be able to work > very intuitivly with it and i am less interested in advanced > sound editing features, very high sound quality or the possibility > to play too many loops together. > anyway, i dont know a lot about the subject and i would be very happy > to have some advice from you, if yould like to. > i would like to hear more about the DJRND2. do you really make it > yourself ? please tell me about it. > Intuitive to play with and no editing mode, these are some interesting points. Existing DJ samplers that you can buy on the market right now still require some preparation for your set of loops before to use it on live. You definitely can't sample and play loops simultaneously because existing samplers, even the biggest, are designed following to the same archaic method : recording time-samples here and there to sew them each other afterwards by using MIDI or what else. Just have a look on ads : They promise you can use their samplers on live ... yes ! press start playing your pre-recorded sequence and that's all ! Ok ! YAMAHA for instance have made some stuffs with which you can turn and switch real time effects on the samples being played back (SU-700), but you still require preparation anyway to 'swallow' your samples into the machine before anything else, and they all still do it in the same old way : - press START REC - press STOP REC - goto EDITING MODE - try to find out the A and B points in your sample to loop correctly - then 'Ok ! it seems to sound good' - then, redefine a new global tempo for a same set of loops - and START REC a sequence (MIDI) - play something on your triggering keyboard (Ouch ! I can't press my drums loops exactly o'clock each others) - stop REC ... And then, when comes out the very moment, you just press START for you demo in front of the audience. Wellknown manufacturers still see this way. Sometimes, I am wondering if they don't really want it as they know they could do much better pruducts, because they seem to cook always the same meal again and again : Do they think we are stupid users that are unable to think in a different way ? They must think we are too much stupid to get better right now, and this is probably why it is very hard to touch these wellknown manufacturers. But back to the subject : If you need intuitive way of use with no need of editing mode or sequence programmation, the DJRND2 could suit you. The only axiom to use it is to set the exact tempo of what is going to be recorded BEFORE you start recording, and that's all ! No editing mode anymore, loops are perfectly recording in the beat. The DJRND2 do not require any sequencer, since loops always keep on spinning round each others in a commun beat. You must be sure of the tempo : for that purpose, you have a TAP TEMPO followed by a second step which is called TRIM TEMPO where you fine the BPM with the trimmer as you can hear it simultaneously in your headphones : accuracy around 0.1 BPM reachable in a few seconds once used with it. Then you can record your first loop or sync your existing loops on your source before recording a new loop. Loops are all stereo, a loop = a layer. A realtime beat countdown is displayed during your recording so you can check if it is o'clock in the BPM. You can couple up loops during recording : REC key shows 'TRAC', press the loop key to record, then appears the beat countdown. You can anticipate the next loop to record immediately after the loop being recorded by pressing SEL followed by the next loop key. The recording time is automatic in function of the loop beat number. This is a first senario to obtain loops quickly. There is no MIDI since the device is purely audio, usable on live in a total intuitive way. There is no HD back up since you can re-sample loops very quickly in a perfect way on a single shot. You can also fine loops juxtaposition afterwards by using BACK and FORW keys so your loops are definitely well fit each-other in terms of beat coincidence. And the fact that you can mix the 14 stereo loops all together gives you the freedom to use all the possible 16383 combinasons of loop mixing at any time. The DJRND2 is really usable on live starting from nothing except the source itself to loop. Loop recording occurs while the loops keep on spinnig back. Loops are never triggered : they are just muted on or off in the mix, which is much easier. You can use the BACK and FORW key to improvise beat break simulations and repetitions : quite funny. Really, the DJRND2 is a very funny and discret device to use on live. DJRND2 is for DJ Round sampler, version 2. Hardware and imbedded software as the device functionalities have been totaly developped on my own. Inside, there are two epoxy PCBS, the one carrying the keys and leds, the other the components. There is no flying wire in it. Potentiometers are from ALPS, switches from ITT SHADOWS, the steelen package stacking upon four rubber cones in order to smoothen keypresses. Dimensions : 260x90x225 mm3 I had an opportunity to use it on live a few days ago during the last Gay-Pride in PARIS. I was looping on a truck beside a DJ playing his records to let people dance in the street. The test was very funny and discret : I do not know if people have seen the difference during record/loops crossfades. Funny it was also when I looped someone in the street who spoke on the mike for someone to meet. It seemed as it was printed in the mix. The DJ himself sometimes told me I was too much looping. Looping, looping ! I'm fool of that ! You can use it as an effect on live or as a remixer at home where you have much time to fine beat juxtaposition concerning heterogenous looped sources (Charles Trenet with Donald D and whatever else). But it remains very efficient on the scene just to make several loops of what is being played back. Restarting the device for a new song is easy : press REC and SEL keys together, all the loops are immediately cleaned, the tempo is kept. The DJRND2 recording method is unique in the world as far as I know. One of the first DJ sampler was the REMIX16 of AKAI in 1995. Then came out the S20 (which is the same product made in a plastic package). AMKO came out with their DJS-1 (Belgium). Then came up the ZOOM ST-224 (some effects are interesting to me in this product). You have also the SP-202 from BOSS (ROLAND). You know, I am the first user of my homemade devices. Do you think I could exchange mine with one of these products even if some of them are more cheaper ? I have reached a certain amount of experience in the use of BPM looping, and this is one of the reasons I could have my looping method patented. As I told you just before, I feel I come out to soon in comparison with the other existing products, but I still hold on. Just tell me if you are interested in check out a device. Emmanuel PERILLE