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At 08:38 PM 7/13/99 -0400, you wrote: >in my recent inquries on random midi and pitch stuff ive gotten >alot of >feedback on MAX >now as far as i know this is a strictly mac thing >is there any pc equivalent? Keykit is probably the most powerful, flexible PC equivalent, but you might also want to look at a program called Building Blocks -- http://www.midiworld.com/AuReality. Intel ports of Max/MSP are rumored to be coming soon for both NT and BeOS, though I've heard nothing lately. I finally retired my tired old 68k Mac, upgraded to a G3/400, and took a look at MAX 3.5 plus MSP -- I can definitely see what all the fuss is about -- this is a *very* potent and flexible combination :-). rob