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Excellent point, K.Douglas. The only problem I see with it is that "new" sounds don't stay new for very long. If Line-6 (or Roland, or Korg, Digitech, etc.) introduced a box o' aluminum locusts (& their Martian counterparts) it might well become the "flavor of the month" for a little while, then show up as a glut on eBay. Don't get me wrong; I enjoy warped stompboxes as much as anyone, and can't wait for the first wave of Space Station enthusiasts to get bored so I can pick one up for fifty bucks! I think Line-6's intentions were probably good in putting several popular retro effects in one package; the real estate around one's feet can get pretty cluttered. But I do agree with what you've all said about gear that's too exclusively retro-targeted; it would be great if someone made a box that offered some of each, a representative, usable selection of both "classic" sounds and original, futuristic stuff. But then that same suit would shoot the idea down, because obviously the thing would be so great that nobody would buy NEXT year's model! Tim At 12:14 PM 7/26/99 -0400, you wrote: > >Knox knocks the nail on the head! Too many clones! With all that >tone-shaping power you'd think they could make something that could sound >like a horde of aluminum locusts at dawn in December after a three day >'frop >binge. I bet the problem is at least partly due to some $-based decision >about three years ago, when some suit said, "Hey! This retro thing is >selling big. Let's make our next chip ALL retro." Much easier than using >some creativity. Then they burned gazillions of retro-friendly chips and >now >they're figuring out how to wrap them in new boxes and make them >salable.... > >