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>Well, you can always zero all the presets on an effects box and start from >zero... Good point, and I often evaluate pedals precisely from this perspective. If the pedal colors the sound when it's doing "nothing" then it's decidedly biased in that direction. Also, I like to A-B a pedal with the "unpedaled", totally bypassed signal. This is particularly important for looping tools, which should merely record and spew back unless you ask them to do otherwise. >> All that I would add to my original comment is that I wish these >> companies would come up with a *blank canvas* approach, rather than a >> "retro" anything or "future" anything or "Saturnine chakra massage" >> anything. My fave-rave FX and amps are those which, with a minimum of >> settings, get the widest range of expression. Dinky smudge-colors from >> ancient stomp boxes are way cool, to be sure, but give me the wide open >> nothingness of infinite possibility any day. I also understand that from a >> marketing standpoint, this approach is really difficult to sell (no one is >> prepared to buy blank canvases because no one sells blank canvases because >> no one buys blank canvases....). But this negative-loop reciprocality >can be >> broken if either the buyer or seller chooses not to play the game. >> -----Original Message----- >