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After reading the message about Reznor's little problems at the first Lalapalooza (I believe this is the show where he went ballistic and smashed a bunch of equipment and slugged his manager in the face and went near crazy - I read this in a weird interview with him. Shows what lack of sleep and fragile high-tech stuff breaking down in extreme conditions will do for you if you have no coping skills). Trent thinks he's a techno gearhead nerd, and this may indeed be the case but he was kind of trying to kill an ant with a sledgehammer here - why do you need two eight track digital recorders onstage with you to play backing tracks and ambiences? It's asking for disaster in a hot outdoor scenario like that. And those pieces of gear were designed for studio use, not rugged outdoor usage. Anyway, Trent could have saved himself a lot of trouble - instead of bring fragile DA88 digital equipment along to play the impossible to duplicate backing ambiences and such, he could have had custom burned CD-Rs of backing tracks brought along and had them played on a disc player through the PA and played along. We know he's doing this anyway, but two DA88's in 103 temperatures is tantamount to saying "I'm asking for trouble doing this, I'm DUMB!" He could have had two track DAT's as a backup. If he wanted to record the show live, well, they could have used the house recording facilities for that if indeed that's what he was thinking. Sometimes analog works better as a convenience factor. I've seen many local musicians in the food courts and skyways downtown Minneapolis doing just this - using custom CD-r discs through a disc player and connected to the PA and they play along. I've seen a sax/ synth duo do this and they have a drum machine they use live, but the rest of the overdubbed stuff is on a disc and it sounds good. Nobody thinks they're doing the Milli Vanilli thing because the main focus of the tunes are done live. Then again, sometimes certain types of equipment just don't lend themselves to outdoor concerts. I remember reading an interview about Jeff Beck and why he never got another guitar-synth after his Roland GR-500 "melted" after being onstage in 100 degree temps for four or five hours before the show began and all sorts of things were happening inside it (such as cooking and things). My two cents. Todd Madson Musician, Mountain Biker, Stunt Kite Flyer, BeOS/MacOS/Linux/WinNt user. http://www.waste.org/~crash/index.html