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Jim Carter wrote... > I'm currently looking at replacing my Boss ME8 floor based multiFX > with either a GT-3 (floor based) or GX700 (rack) processor. > I already use a MIDI floor cntroller to drive an EDP and SX700 > so the rack option gives me one less box on the floor. > However, I do rather like the immediacy of patch selection on a floor > based unit (especially when a jam suddenly takes a new direction) > plus I can use my favorite stomp boxes in the send/return loop > without too much extra cabling. Hi Jim... I had a GX-700 which I loved and have since switched to a GT-5. I use a midi floor controller as well... a Digitech PMC-10. At first I thought that having the GT-5 on the floor as well would be a problem, but found out that there's a huge hidden advantage. I program one button on the PMC-10 to call the first patch in a bank (5 patches on the GT-5) The GT-5 patch appears (patch 1 of 5 in that particular bank) I've basically copied that first patch and then varied it... more or less disto, different modulation, etc. So for each button you program on the midi box you get five accessible variants of a single sound (or a certain ballpark). With one bank of ten buttons I have: 1. 5 clean sounds... some bright and shimmery as well as some good jazz types 2. 5 amp sims of various grinds... mostly light to medium od 3. 5 fairly conventional amp-like crunch-drives 4. 5 GT-5 heavy disto's... some with wild panning and delay tricks. 5. 5 Big Muff (turns on loop 1 of my loop switcher and selects the patch) 6. 5 PE Experience Fuzz patches (loop 2 on the switcher) 7. 5 Big Cheese patches (loop 3 on the switcher) 8. Main Vortex on/off... (a/b switched with two DMC GCX Expander relays) 9. Looper Vortex on/off... (a/b switched with DMC GCX Expander relays) This is ONE bank on my midi controller... I have another bank for EDP control, one for Waldorf 4-pole control, and am programming another entire bank for the really wacked GT-5 patches that aren't falling into my basic 7 categories already assigned. Mostly deep space, synth, bass and pitch stuff. Only 4 banks will give me a boatload of sounds... a single GT-5 based performance bank gives me access to 35 GT-5 patches! > More help please - if people are using multiFX wiht stereo outs together with an > EDP, how are you wiring this? My current set-up goes: My EDP is on aux send one of my rack mixer. Channels 1 and 2 are the GT-5 stereo output. CH3 and 4 are the main Vortex output... both of these have the aux sends up so either can be fed to the EDP. There's a Looper Vortex to mess with the EDP mono output and get it stereoized as well. I'm currently not using aux send 2 but will probalby add a Korg DL8000r for major delay damage to my already Vortexed stuff as well as the EDP itself. Can't wait to hear how that sounds!!! > Ok, the easy solution is to buy (if I could) another echoplex and keep stereo > throughout. I'm also thinking of swapping my mixing desk for a rack unit to > keep the whole thing more mobile. Eventually a second EDP would be nice for me as well... I found a used Roland m120 line mixer which seems to be very nice sounding and has balanced outs, a really loud headphone amp, 2 aux busses, and a cool stereo mix input which only goes to the monitors and not the mains for click tracks or whatever. I also have a Mackie 1202VLZ for further mix-mongering (vocals, filter, drumbox...) > Again, a rack FX processor might make things more portable but a floor unit can > be used alone for non-looped/low FX gigs and with MIDI in I can always stick it in/on > the rack and drive it from the floor controller. Believe me... The GT-5 ALONE on the floor going straight to the mains, can be a great short delay (2 secs) looper as well as get totally freaky all by it's lonesome. Once coupled with midi control you've got a huge ballpark to work with... > Will someone please (only just avoided use of caps. lock) tell me what to buy. > When I just had a line of stomp boxes the answer was simple - another stomp > box, todays technology has fucked my head. Get the GT-5 or GT-3... I've finally heard the POD sounds, and while they're certainly nice... the COSM Boss stuff sounds just as good to me. I'd say the initial presets for amp-like sounds are better on the POD, but once you've learned to tweak the COSM stuff, you're in exactly the same department AND have a built in floor controller with great control of tons of effects as well. best regards, -Miko Miko Biffle "Running scared from all the usual distractions..." mbiffle@svg.com