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SoundFNR@aol.com wrote: ><someone else said> ><The ATRAC encoding is very sophisticated and uses multiple ><strategies to make sure that most of the information lost ^^^^ ><is information that you could never possibly hear. >but when I recorded grasshoppers at the foot of a cliff >they somehow got lost, although I could hear them through headphones while >recording >there was alot of other noise about (from the sea) so I guess the ATRAC >couldn't >handle it. that's the classic sort of thing that ATRAC handles badly. or any compression method for that matter. if you think that a random string of audio bits would be the hardest to compress, surf and noise are pretty damn close to a string of random bits! /t