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Quite so...plus there is a neat wrinkle, re: the GT-5's short delay--set up a preset with max delay time, with feedback at 100% or nearly, and a mod effect placed after the delay block. Copy this to each position in a 5-patch bank, then switch each mod effect to a different process. Now, you can switch from preset to preset with the delay line full and looping, and the delay spill-over will send the same loop thru each mod process...of course, if you place an outside mono looper (headrush, for example) in the physical loop, you could do the same thing with longer delay times. dpc <<I believe that's and EFFECTS loop which would allow you to patch in another set of rack or pedal effects within the GT-5's signal path. It does have a delay would could be used as a very short looper....>> Subject: The GT-5 is a looper? > I was looking for new ways to process my v-drums and tablas, when I ran > across the GT-5. While looking at the list-o-effects it included Loop, does > anyone have more information on this?>>