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hello loopers for those of us who can't run out and buy all the new fx processors available... i was visited by a revelation last night. and honestly it isn't very significant. but it really does sound cool. take microphones (cheapies that you don't care about) and push them up against things that move. like reel-to-reels. leave them there. listen to the nice beats and loopy things this produces. if you do it right, and the microphone is slightly offset each time the machine goes through a cycle of motion, the sound loop morphs very slowly into different timbral bits. its pretty much the same as micing machines, but here the microphone becomes involved in the sound production in a more instrumental fashion. also. another good one. discovered one night in boston while listening to porter ricks very loud after lots of cheap wine. play minimal techno/beat oriented music very loud in a cluttered room. then wander around and listen closely to all of the objects on your walls, tables, etc. as they vibrate in different ways. and then (this is the hard part) attempt to mic these little vibrations in such a way as to maximize their dynamics and minimize the actual music's presence on your recording. trying to record vibrations like this usually (for me) ends up producing very fluid, natural rhythms that are more complex than basic thumpings. sorry, these ideas are really quite silly and mundane, but i felt like typing a bit and therefore decided to subject you all to my ramblings. --sven