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In a message dated 99-09-28 11:41:07 EDT, you write: << Also, does anyone know of a MIDI CC pedal that has a MIDI out right on the pedal (i.e., not a volume or CV into a conversion box)? The folks on alt.guitar.effects have so far come up with Digitech and Morley as possible sources. >> There is definitely a Digitech MiDI footcontroller, I saw one yesterday. It's black and it looks like one of there WHammy II pedals but slightly smaller. It looks marvelously simple, with two knobs - one to select MIDI channel, and the other to select a CC value. The pedal has a decent travel and a good feel. It was selling for $125.00 I didn't catch the model number but if you bug me about it I can call and ask. eric p echo park