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>"When do you make a choice NOT to loop?" Oh, nice question ;-) I guess, most of us have parts without loop in their loop pieces, but they rather feel like bridges mostly, so thats probably not what we talk about here... I allways had problems with rythms. My music speaks in sound and melody. I somehow need the loop to keep me steady and leared a lot from it. Brasil tought me another big lesson. But still, without loop, I tend to constantely change themes and travel in variations, hardly repeating myself. For a long time, I thought this was not "serious" music, but more and more I find it about as interesting as mantric loops. Where is that need for repeated parts coming from? Isnt it mostly a help to remember and teach the song? So in an improvisation, you dont need it? If you want a mantric effect, use a loop to get the strongest effect, if not, just keep going, tell the story! To do it well is not so easy, but I am getting better at it, in my candleaccousiticroom. Could anyone indicate recorded music of this notreapeatatall kind? Matthias ---> http://Matthias.Grob.org