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Hi everyone -I think this is a most important topic (i wanted to ask it myself a while back ) I think the practice of using it because its there is not what David had in mind -after all (speaking for myself) I a musician who uses loops as a tool to get results not available otherwise.Not a looper who tries to fit in with any context I'm placed in I've played many shows where i brought my loop gear but dint rely on it - maybe that has a lot to do with density of the music -who I'm playing with musical direction..etc a few things I've observed - i have created some truly remarkable music using looping with only a capable drummer someone who can get inside of the loop & circle it at the same time interaction like that is beauty -beauty is a rare thing-- in a group situation : if the other participants dont get what I'm doing -the music will suffer any attempts to loop my way to success wont work if theres no empathy looping is a tool -it isn't necessary that i do it all the time -if the music doesn't call for it there are things in music ,in sound -space, dynamics that looping cannot give me I'm not saying i cant have space in loops etc-- i like making an intelligent de scion when to deploy or not as Tim pointed out,and i agree -how we approach the choice of not looping says a lot about how we loop & our ideas toward creation of music great topic K At 06:44 PM 10/3/99 -0400, you wrote: >I think you've misunderstood David Kirkdorffer's original question. He's >not asking "Should one ever loop?", but rather, "As a musician who DOES >take advantage of the available technology, under what specific >circumstances does one make the CHOICE to refrain from looping?", a big >difference. I think most, if not all, of us on this list would agree with >you that we're better off looping, but recognizing that the looping >community manifests a considerable range of approaches, David's question >is >ideally suited to discussion in such a forum. It is by comparing and >contrasting our respective loop techniques, and by getting a feel for the >role looping plays in the context of our overall musicianship that we >learn >and grow. The proportion of looped and unlooped playing varies amongst us >for a variety of reasons, and David felt that this warranted discussion. >You're right, there is absolutely no reason not to loop, but sometimes >there are very good reasons not to loop 100% of the time, and this is what >David was addressing. > >BTW, Brian Eno's "Discreet Music" was recorded in 1975. Steve Reich and >Terry Riley were looping more than a decade before that, and Stockhausen >was heading in that direction with his layered and manipulated tape loops >as long ago as 1956 (Gesang der Junglinge), so it's not really a question >of whether one needs the latest technology. Looping's not new; the gear's >just getting a lot better. But that wasn't what Mr. Kirkdorffer was >asking. > >Tim > >At 12:12 PM 10/3/99 -0700, you wrote: >>if you wanna be in 1975 you don't loop but with technology today there's >>absolutely no reason not to loop and use patterns created by your self >through >>your sequencer wether it's souned forge4.5 or cakewalk diffrent versions >hgave >>the number of patterns you =can sequence or loop with your better of >using >>l;oops asv your loop will always be on time will your guatrist? >