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although i'm (i'm sure we all are) always trying to find an easier way, my current set up for live usage is to put all the rack stuff in two racks (one is too heavy). the main rack has the following: EDP harmonizer ART SG2000 switchblade GL all of the cables are wrapped inside the rack. the ones that have to go external devices are marked, and there is a snake that goes to the floor effects (all cable ends are clearly marked). the secured rack has the amp, a 2nd EDP, tuner and jamMan and in some cases a synth or two. it now takes me about 10 minutes to set up, but with lots of cables there are always problems. klowy -------------------------------------------- you can actually hear wrinklemuzik on the web: http://www.riffage.com/Bands/1,2939,1682,00.html