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Ah, they'd just raise their prices and list, say, a Les Paul Custom for $3,600. Oh wait, they already did... :-P Seriously, not only do boycotts only work during "hard times", they also only work when they're done by a large enough percentage of a company's customers and when the company's "bread and butter" products are not being purchased. Regardless of how many people use Opcode products or are waiting for EDPs, Gibson's main line is, was and will be wooden things with frets and strings. This thread began with a quality-control observation: the screws holding the EDP's circuit board don't always stay in. (And I'm pretty sure it was posted in the spirit of community as a heads up to other EDP owners so they could check theirs, not as a slam against Gibson.) This would not be a difficult thing for Gibson to fix, maybe a little LocTite on the assembly line or a little more torque on the screwdriver, a dab of enamel, whatever. We've got to remember that we're talking about a product that represents a miniscule fraction of Gibson's business and that the looping community is not really an accurate cross section of Gibson's overall market. Most of us on this list would love to be able to buy a new EDP (or two) at any music store with no waiting, but the average Gibson customer's interest is considerably less. Sure, if all 40,000+ Vision users had been planning on purchasing new Gibson guitars but bought Fenders en masse instead to avenge Opcode, Gibson would indeed be "pissed", but that's not really the likeliest scenario. So, a boycott?! Wouldn't it make more sense to stay civil about it? If Gibson is made aware that the screws are falling out of the boards, they can easily remedy the problem and improve the product. There're probably enough suits in Gibson's boardroom who don't envision a high enough profit margin for the EDP anyway or see it as a dispensible ancillary tie-in or some other trendy marketing buzzword for "special interest product"; why should we antagonize the folks at Gibson who DO believe in the EDP and ARE working to get production going again. Getting reactionary about it's not going to change what happened with Opcode, that's for sure. Tim At 04:49 PM 11/7/99 -0500, you wrote: >>Historical Note: Boycotts only work during "hard times". There's too >>much money floating around these days for anyone to give a damn. >>Especially Gibson. > >We'll see. We can certainly piss them off if nothing else. >There are in 40,000+ Vision users alone. > > /t > >