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Miko said: Like I said earlier... Bungle's records, while interesting, aren't quite the experience of them live. And they definitely push the limits of what transfers from the studio to the stage. ** i pretty much view bungle as a non-improvising "rock" band . . . even though there are some master improvisors in the band. improv doesn't strike me as being the "artistic intent" that they're operating out of. more Miko: Nels Cline Trio is also quite a ride... It's surprising how much interplay there is in that ensemble and how well it translates to a studio document. I'd love to see them live... They do some pretty radical flash-cut transitions live as well... + Ryan said: I've been hearing a lot about that lately, I'll have to check them out soon. I heard a part of the Coltrane- Ali tribute, guitar and drum duo thing he did and liked it quite a bit. Sounds like it's definitely something I'd be into from your description. Thanks. ** i don't think that you'll be seeing too much of the nct for a long while. the band (as far as i know, and i don't "speak for nels") is no longer extant. he has been doing a band called "destroy all nels cline" and another call "scarnella" (duo with carla from the geraldine fibbers) as well as a sometimes improvising collective called "stinkbug" (of which i'm a member). nels has been doing a lot of different stuff, check him out he's really a great guitarist and uses the eh-16 well in the looping realm (topical!). the intersteller space thing with gregg bendian is pretty cool. saw 'em do it live here in l.a., haven't yet heard the cd. the trio cds are on a couple of different labels. you may be able to get 'em at forced exposure. Even more Miko: Also... is anybody else thinking that Bill Frissells laid back stuff just ain't getting there anymore? (Just an opinion... to his credit, he's still throwing loops out there. 8-b) ** i've heard that bill has been experiencing hearing difficulties (sort of like charlie haden?), don't know if this is true. so this may have something to do with his dealing a lot in less extreme stuff of late. probably won't see that naked city tour . . . that being said, yeah it's not quite my cup o' tea now. stig