Re: tibetan prayer wheels

[Matthias Grob <matthias@grob.org>]

>a few months ago, i came across a wav. of the "our father" read in old
>english, of course i had to loop it.........this made me wonder, along the
>lines of "do androids dream of electric sheep"..........are electronic
>prayers valid and can we storm the gates of heaven with prayer
>loops..........or is all prayer just the asking that one plus one not 
>equal
>two (i hope not)...........historically, loops were present in religious
>chantings and prayer services, both western and eastern........the 
>seasons,
>the phases of the moon, all loops.........spin a prayer wheel, if this 
>isnt a
>prayer loop, what is?...........just some thoughts during this wild and 
>wacky
>time of year.........maybe i should get out 
>more.......:)............michael

All I understood about praying is that it takes:
- concentration for the message to become strong
- release to really send it to the other dimension.
So it may not make sense:
- to repeat it without thinking of it (no accumulation)
- to think of it permanently (no sending).

But anything may work, and maybe a very long loop that reminds you 
after a while to go through the process again will help...

>Good question. I recall call a quote from M.J. Gandhi: "Every action can 
>be
>a prayer". He used it in the context of everyday chores, saying that as 
>long
>as the mind is contemplative of God as you do seemingly mundane actions,
>then you are praying.  Who's to say that when we are awash in mulitple 
>loops
>and sonic bliss that we can't be in a spiritual state of mind. I may have
>killed a few brain cells in my youth, but, at times, I do feel much the 
>same
>way when I loop with guitar in hand as I do when at church or in 
>meditation.

Nice!
Often, right after playing, I am pretty unable even to talk to people...


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