Re: Vortex sounds "bottled" when bypassed- ot?

["Mike Biffle" <mbiffle@svg.com>]

Ahh... this is where you get out the mono volume pedal and patch the
aux to it and send volume to the vortex whenever your foot gets the
urge...

-Miko

>>> "Clifford@BienAppraisers" <bienappraisers@mindspring.com> 12/06
9:45 AM >>>
I think you may have hit the nail there- so when it is in bypass it
sends
signal through but with no effect- so you hear the channel signal
plus the
dry signal from the aux- grrr- my old ass Yamaha mixer has these
little
dials everywhere- not a push button in sight- even if there were
though I'd
have to reach over and push it- man- its like I need a mixer BEFORE I
even
get to my rack and then one after the rack- jeeze- I was looking at
Behringer mixers too- lots of bang for the buck there-
http://www.behringer.de/eng/default.htm 

Cliff

PS- ot- any pc users who have seen the error "Windows Protection
Error" on
boot please msg me off list- I removed a partition and now I can't
boot reg-
safe mode works but I have tried everything- no autoexec, no config,
complete scan, sys file check- I read the boot log but saw nothing
suspicious-

thx-
-----Original Message-----
From: Mike Biffle <mbiffle@svg.com>
To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com <Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com>;
mark@grape.no <mark@grape.no>
Date: Monday, December 06, 1999 9:27 AM
Subject: Re: Vortex sounds "bottled" when bypassed- ot?


>I've noticed the mention of putting the unit in bypass... If it's
on
>an aux send it's doubling your signal if it's in bypass. To kill
the
>Vortex and avoid the doubling you'll have to turn either the Vortex
>return channel down or the aux send it's on. Bypass won't help you
>here. You can get great full stereo use of a Vortex on the Alt 3/4
>buss included on most Mackie mixers. That way you can just punch
the
>button and send it off to the Vortex. If you return the Vortex to a
>channel strip you can then use aux buss processing to further mess
>with it or loop it.
>
>-Miko
>
>>>> mark <mark@grape.no> 12/06 2:00 AM >>>
>I think I have this problem too, when I plug directly in to the
>vortex, No Probs...however
>it appears "out of phase" when on the AUX sends.
>
>...so how do I make it "In Phase?"...please?
>
>
>MArk Red
>
>jpw77@together.net wrote:
>
>> Sounds like the Vortex is being put out of phase somewhere in
your
>setup. Could be
>> cables  (swap 'em and see),another device inline with the
Vortex,or
>your mixer. If
>> you're bringing it back into dedicated efx returns try two normal
>channels on the
>> board-on some mixers efx returns are (inexplicably) out of phase
(
>maybe to
>> counteract the fact that the outputs of some budget efx boxes are
>out of phase). This
>> means your wet signal from the Vortex is out too, and should
sound
>a lot better if you
>> track this down.
>>
>> Jon Williams
>
>--
>"In vodka Veritas"
>
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