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hello, Or maybe your mixing the dry signal with the wet signal already at the mixer aux's. DT -----Original Message----- From: jpw77@together.net [mailto:jpw77@together.net] Sent: Monday, December 06, 1999 8:38 AM To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Subject: Re: Vortex sounds "bottled" /phase/oops I take it all back-realised I've never put my Vortex in bypass, so I did and got the same thing. So it's the unit itself putting the dry signal out of phase. Why, I don't know. Could be delaying the signal slightly. Not a problem if you return it 100% wet or use it inline(instrument-Vortex-amp). Mike's right-you just have to turn it down instead of bypassing it. Jon Williams