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In a message dated 99-12-20 16:58:00 EST, you write: << ** you could check out the fulltone supatrem. it has both hard and soft waves (i guess square and saw?). the hard gets a pretty cool gating sound . . . and you can mix the effect versus straight signal. >> The Fulltone does get that sound. I use a Dunlop Tremolo, it has a knob to adjust from soft to hard wave shape. I had to tweak an internal trim pot or two to bunp the effects output a bit, though, as it had a slight dip in signal. The Fulltone actually uses a 1 dB boost when engaged and it really helps cut through. When I saw Peter Buck a couple of years ago he was using the Diaz Tremodillo pedal, sometimes using a pretty hard chop. It's possible that is also what he used in that recording. I found the used Dunlop for $70, so after making the tweak I was very happy. I think people dump them because they are to quiet when engaged. But some careful tweaking will make it better than most others. Gets a full off-on chop if you want. Also does stereo panning and will pass a stereo signal through bypass or effect with or without pan. Versatile yet simple to use. eric p echo park