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I just want to chime in on Greg's review.... I ordered my DL-4 from Alto on Tues. & received it on Thurs. All total w/shipping $232.88. They were out of power supplies at the time, but said they would send one along ASAP. They sent batteries to get me started. I already own an EV-5 exp. pedal & it works just fine with the DL-4. I would like to give a hearty second to something Greg said. The DL-4 is not only like a "little brother" Echoplex, but it also shares some DNA with the Vortex. I started out by using the DL-4 in the effects loop of my Digitech 2120. This was OK, but the effects loop is mono so I was missing a lot. I then tried running the stereo outputs of the 2120 to the stereo inputs of the DL-4. This was much better. As far as looping goes, I find the sound quality at half speed (28 secs) well within my tolerance. I like the feel of the footswitches. I have big feet, but a light foot, and I haven't missed a start/stop point on a loop yet. As far as the authenticity of the modeling, I'll have to defer to the experts. I can say that they are distinct from each other & IMO represent an incredible value in their own right. You can even use them as loopers,(within the confines of their delay times). Most recently, I ran the output of my EDP into the DL-4 & just sat for an hour or so with the DL-4 in my lap, moving from model to model & spinning knobs. Welcome to Vortex Country! Five minutes of this will have you pining for one of those knob turning gizmos like Neil Young uses on his guitar amp. I mean it. I would appreciate any advice on how to accomplish footpedal control of ALL the knobs. I hope Line 6 sells enough of these puppies to encourage further looper development. John ===== John Tidwell __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Thousands of Stores. Millions of Products. All in one place. Yahoo! Shopping: http://shopping.yahoo.com