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Just wanted to know if any one was still looping with frippertronics? Because I figure I can find two revoxes for around 300 stick a Dl4 and vortex in front of them run the outputs to my mixer my mixer into my Edp and loop to my hearts content. Also there were some postings about in what order to arrange effects? I would like to ask what effects specifically would be good for basic sound scapes? Is there a better all purpose modulation effect that the vortex? Dose anybody think the erogenous moan would be a good choice a volume because it also offers backwards tape effect as well? I really dont know much about effects so can anyone recommend a good all purpose volume/ expression/ wha to get, as i think I would need them for the vortex and the dl4(should I ever get that much money)? Thanks Oh you all should definitely check out The Pefftronics rendomizer it is the craziest little piece of joy you ever ran across. . ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com