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>>> While I agree taht the DL4 is the more versitle delay it does not have >>> the one simple feature theboss Dl5 does and that's a simple delay that >>> you can switch to be an infinte loops *FROM DELAY MODE*. How do you mean from delay mode? On my DD-5 the only permanent hold setting does only that - it is not a delay but a 2-second sampler. On the delay modes you can crank the feed back for not-quite-infinite loops (they decay over a minute or so) and you cant, solo over the loop, unless you use the HOLD setting, which is a short samlpe/hold and not a delay. Hopefully I'm missing something? Please enlighten! I've loaned out my DD-5 since getting the DL-4! eric p echo park