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In a message dated 2/1/00 9:03:14 PM Mid-Atlantic Standard Time, jo@numerica.it writes: << I love looping in real time, it seems more "honest" to me. Anyway, especially in structured composition, I miss having loops perfect in the time and in the expression. >> luca.......i think the sample feeds the loop.......and the loop allows the sample to grow.......huh?.......:)........michael