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>I was very opposed to using any kind of tape, > samples, midi guitar or synthetic stuff and I still wont, But, if > I believe > what I say, then it doesn't matter how an artist get's it's sounds >really, > as long as the end product is pleasing to the artist that creates it. How is midi guitar not acceptable ('synthetic')? I guess I am just confused with your point. Midi guitarists may be triggering samples, but they do have to play every note. How is usuing a drum machine that plays samples and is not manipulated in real time acceptable? And midi guitarists don't have to play samples- most of the fun is designing your own sounds. Dave Eichenberger- guitars.loops.devices http://home1.gte.net/artmusic/dave