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Hi trouble haha, oops can of worms opened..... Yes, well, ok, what I meant by that is that the stuff I loop is just standard guitar sounds, not synthesyzer sounds or samples triggered by midi. I have owned midi guits in the past and it takes just as much skill to play one as a regular guitar. I'm not knockng it in that way. But,it is triggering sounds from one note to a synthetic orchestra. designing your own sounds is still synthesized sounds. There is nothing wrong with that, but for me I wanted to see what I could do with just regular *(nonmidi guitar). I don't know midi guit is a great idea, but gosh I just played a synth the other day and the sounds you could get surely were perfect, but almost too much. Tangerine dream is like that. listen to there old stuff awesome sounds, new cd's well yeah it's tangerine dream but darn it synth sounds well.....the same...generic...maybe...I don't know too perfect almost....sterile?...I don't know, midi guitar just doesn' t allows you to trigger other sounds.Now I know you can do super cool stuff with guit synth (like steve morse for example). But it's just not for me.But I agree my drum machine is not different than a midi guitar really. But it's not the focus of my playing. Basically, I try to avoid synthesized , triggered stuff If I can. Sometimes though I can't find a good alternative. That's all I was saying. But I know especially now the new midi guitars are pretty dammn accurate tracking wise and such.And now add the VG-8 is it a guitar? is it a midi guitar? What the heck is it? both? Ok, thank you sir may I have another hahah...ready for your response hahaha Thanks Denis Denis Taaffe denis_aliengtr@geocities.com http://www.dtguitar.com How is midi guitar not acceptable ('synthetic')?