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> I was very opposed to using any kind of tape, samples, midi guitar or synthetic stuff and I still wont, But, if I believe what I say, then it doesn't matter how an artist get's it's sounds really, as long as the end product is pleasing to the artist that creates it. - -As a recordist or composer... yes. You should absolutely get what you need into the piece. No holds barred... - - But as a performer, you have to consider the integrity of your performance. Is it engaging? In what ways? - - I'm realizing that for me to try and recreate existing pieces and supply those elements with machines is a compromise at best... ** interesting points. i think that it's worth remembering that the original post about the drum machine issue was that it wasn't working (for that person's taste, mind you) as an auditory experience only - - not as a performance issue (or at least i didn't notice any anti-drum machine bias). i believe it comes down to what you're happy with - - and whether or not it can live up to YOUR critical scrutiny. if you would keep the live performance the same way as a recorded performance (in this case leaving a the same drum machine performance stand), than you're in there. IF you feel like it would be better as a studio creation, then my suggestion is that you would need to reconsider/change some of what you're doing. i generally learn a lot from listening and realizing what i don't like about my performances, or those of others . . . often i learn more from something that i "dislike" than i do from things that i "like." which leads me to the idea that i'm trying to create something that i would like to listen to - - and that i could listen to CRITICALLY. so . . . i don't really worry about if the audience would be getting bored with a loop or a drum machine pattern, or what have you; i get worried about whether i'm getting bored with those things, in real time during the performance. hopefully the audience will enjoy it too, and i like audience members who can be critical of a performance in a meaningful way. if it works for you musically, be happy; if you feel that it could be better, analyze why and try to deal with it. just my ante, stig