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REverend enough confession please....haha Know it isn't really, yes the listener hears the drum machine but like I explained with the joe satriani concert it is not the focus of the music, perhaps what the focus is the loops, yet if the drum machine wasn't there it would be missed. well that's how I feel about my stuff anyway. tru I guess if the lsitener is focusing on the drums the whole time, but that would kind of odd no? I guess it wouldn't if you were a drummer .... Denis