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>>["Jack-hammer time" is] also at the root of the rhythmic, cyclic music of shamanistic ceremonies and similar rituals which send listeners and purveyers into hypnotic states, where time seems to disappear. > Alex Stahl... > After all of the recent posts encouraging intellectual honesty, what are your sources for your statement that entrainment is at the root of timeless music? Thanks so much for this Alex... It was all I could do not to jump in and mention the "contrast" of this from Larry's previous statements! Even more bewildering stance switching (from another post) from Larry below, just for laughs! 8-) Ya know Larry... I find this kind of stuff fine by me, but wonder why previous stuff like this seemed so offensive to you and incited such strong assertions that it smacked of psuedo-scientific balderdash!? Yours truly, -Miko > As Dane Rudyar said: > "The sound of music is a revelation of the realm of psychism; and the level of intensity and expression of music is the dynamic reflection of the level of the psychism of especially sensitive and open human beings. Music is a psychic communication." > In the same vein, related to the New Scienist article, Donald Hatch Andrews states - "the universe is more like music than matter" - in that "the universe is a whole constituted by an incredibly complex web of communication that relates everything to everything else". > I think this 'psychic communication' is manifested in the subjective response we have to harmony, tone and vibration. Just as one can wonder and marvel at the skill and aesthetic genius demonstrated by the buildings of say, Frank Lloyd Wright, one immediately senses the qualities in a piece of music. > That's why "Music is frozen architecture" is one of my favorite musical quotes. > - Larry (not intending to belittle anyone, especially tastes in architecture). :)