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you said (or, re-said, if yer quoting some other folk): >A disciplined mind brings happiness. is that really **true**, intrinsically & patently? i *is* wondering..... a few questions immediately passed through my porous, addled brain: 1) what kind of 'discipline' ya talking, here? 2) exactly *whom* is executing said 'disciplining'? 3) a) what kinda 'happiness' is being implied, & b) whom is made 'happy' by this 'discipline'? bleep, again. sorry. dt