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Eric, The problem isn't with the conversion, it's with decoding and re-encoding of lossy-compression sound formats like MP3. By lossy compression I mean that the encoding algorithm throws away *a lot* of the original sound data when it compresses a file. When it comes time to decode the file (for example, when playing it back) the decoder attempts to guess what the lost data is supposed to be. So decoding an MP3 file (and you have to decode it to play or edit the wave data), and then re-encoding it to another compressed format - even MP3 - is going to result in more loss, because the encoder has to throw more sound data away, forcing the decoder to guess again what lost sound was when it decompresses it. If an MP3 file is all you have to work with (you don't have the uncompressed original?) your best bet is probably to decompress it, work with the decompressed file until you have absolutely no more changes to make, then as a last step re-encode it back to MP3. It will still result in loss. But you should never decode/re-encode or convert back and forth to and from lossy formats like MP3 or RealAudio. Formats like that are really intended for final production. hope this helps, Tim ----- Original Message ----- From: "eric" <eobertha@inreach.com> To: <Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com> Sent: Wednesday, April 05, 2000 4:26 PM Subject: Re: MP3>AIFF > thanks! then do you know of any app that let's you edit mp3 directly so >to > avoid the conversions? > eobe > > Jonathan El-Bizri wrote: