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Miko, thanks for the overview. I was already under the impression that the DJRND2 was intended as a DJ-oriented real-time loop machine. Even without a footswitch for arming the RECORD, it sounds like it would make a great montage/layering looper in a studio environment. As a big fan of the RDS 7.6 Time Machines, something along the lines of their ARM/TRIGGER footswitch controls would be perfect. I'd really like to know more about the sound quality, especially with 14 stereo channels blazing at once. :) Got any comments about the sound quality, Miko? TIA, - Larry ----- Original Message ----- From: "Mike Biffle" <mbiffle@svg.com> To: <Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com>; <Jax1723@aol.com> Sent: Monday, April 10, 2000 1:28 PM Subject: Re: Mede Mede!!! >> DJRND2 in Santa Cruz tonight! > PERILLE writes... > > Mede Mede !!! missing in action : Dave Potter and Mike Biffle Have > they been swallowed by the french looper ? Will they survive from the > alien machine ? We will probably know it ... or never... Same loop > time, same loop channel... > > Jack writes... > > So what's the verdict??? My understanding is that it was primarily > designed to be used in a dj setup... how does it translate in other > (guitar, bass, percussion, etc.) setups? just curious, jack > > Hi gang... > > I'm expecting possibly a more in-depth review from our buddy David > Potter, but I had a chance to check out the unit and formed a few > quick impressions which I'll list below. I have to apologize to > Perille for not really digging in and trying to understand the unit > better. (more on that below...) > > It's housed in a cool tabletop setup much like many of the tabletop > samplers we're familiar with. It had a nice blue cloud like mist hand > sprayed on it and the word "PAPA" on the lcd screen in honor of Mr. > Potter... > > This baby is full stereo for each of it's 14 channels!!! (If I'm not > mistaken). Which makes it unique in our world of mono boxes... That > alone is worth tons... > > It seems like it ** REALLY IS ** set up to audition pre-recorded bits > into it, DJ style... from a sampler or cd or??? Anyway... you arm > record, then press the channel button and recording begins... Once > it's in the unit you can "gearwheel" the loop around to sync it up as > well as trim the tempo etc. It looks to be really capable in this > regard... No midi, but I'm pretty sure most dj's are ignoring midi and > doing incredible things... > > Being a guitarist, (David's one as well) we were both sort of at a > loss to figure out a way to arm the recording process in a way that > would allow us to seamlessly record our bits into the unit. So it was > hard to really PLAY and work with the unit. So I'll leave it to > someone else to discover it's fidelity with various instruments and > sounds. > > If the loop select buttons could be simply triggered with a > footswitch, that would allow a real-time player "hands-free" access to > this critical step, making this unit FAR more desirable to many of us > here on the list, and expanding it's scope to include a much larger > market. The lack of this feature made it hard for me to continue > testing, as I only had a few hours, and wanted to definitely spend a > good portion of that actually playing... which a footswitch would have > allowed. > > As for it's capability as a DJ tool, or for experimental layering of > pre-recorded segments, it looks to be really great. Quicker than a > sampler, (but volatile memory). Possibly more flexible... The more I > think about it though, the more I ask myself, what are it's essential > differences from, say an SP808 or MPC 2000? Those require more careful > inputing of the sounds, but have added processors and filters, > tap-tempo, midi sync, etc... although it might be fairer to compare it > to a sampler in it's price range of $600-$700. > > Adding that one extra footswitch feature for the START RECORD > function could differentiate it from a sampler, and make if waaaayyyy > more desirable to a lot of us, hopefully without increasing the cost > of the unit much. I could certainly find a use for a 14 loop stereo > machine if I could perform hands-free recording with it! > > Best, > -Miko > >