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First I would like to say thanks for all the helpful information that this list provides! <snip> this is robert of tono-bungay. i'm looking to set up a gig for my solo/improv/uglient side project called anti:clockwise in seattle or olympia on tuesday night may 23. </snip> I would suggest checking out the Tentacle Calendar at: http://www.tentacle.org/calendar.html This should give you some ideas for places to play. It is also a wonderful resource in general. <snip> My trusty DOD DFX 94 can do that. Of course it maxes out at 4 seconds, doesn't give you more than about 10 layers, and DOD hasn't made it for at least 3 years. But if you see one on ebay, don't hesitate (and don't pay more than $100). </snip> Cool, thanks. Didn't they also make a DFX 98 at one point with double the delay time? <snip> The Boss DM-2 is discontinued but it worked like this. Of course, the Line 6 DL-4 has a DM-2 model! Line 6 calls it "Analog Echo" I believe. Plus, it works in stereo... </snip> Thanks, yeah the DL-4 will be my next purchase! <snip> hello dave, i don't have a direct answer to your questions other than to recommend the mo-fx rack from electrix. from what you're describing, this would seem to be more or less suited to your setup. </snip> I will definately have to check this out. I have tried their other effects and have found them to be a bit Fisher-Price. This one looks very interesting however. Ok I'll shut up now... ___________________________________________________________ Dave Onnen dave@skyeklad.com ___________________________________________________________