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In a message dated 5/2/00 9:09:40 PM Mid-Atlantic Daylight Time, mcgary@metronet.com writes: << but you'll probably have to wear a visitor's badge. >> mike.........you look the principle right in the eye and say "we dont need no stinkin badges"........but of course you must be sportin the official LD teashirt...........carte blanc in most situations with sound............:)............michael