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LOOPCOPY... in the parameters you can choose either Sound, Time or OFF. You CAN copy just the time and not the entire contents to your next loop. -Miko >>> "Dennis W. Leas" <dennis@mdbs.com> 05/10 8:58 AM >>> Hi Brian >i don't want the contents of loop one spilling over to loop two......i just >want to start an individual loop(loop 2) and have it automatically stop at >the exact same time as loop 1 with one press of the next loop >button.......like the jamman >possible? I'm not exactly clear on what you want to do but this might help: Check the EDP manual page 4-76 under SwitchQuant. In discussing alternate endings during the "lame duck" period - "Insert Copies the timing (but not the contents) of the first cycle of the current loop into the next loop, and puts you into Insert mode when you get there. Caution: erases the contents of the next loop." I don't have my EDP with me right now, but with a single cycle loop in #1, some sequence like: NEXTLOOP, INSERT, (wait for loop #2), INSERT will probably copy the timing of loop #1 into loop #2. I'm not sure you can make the EDP work EXACTLY like the Jamman regarding copying loop timing. It may require more than one button press to provide the same function. Some folks on the list own both EDPs and Jamdudes so they could probably understand your analogy better than I. Dennis Leas ----------------------------- dennis@mdbs.com