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I don't know fur shur, but I'd guess there'd have to be some looping going on here. Any loopers going? stephen **yep. i was going to send an e-mail about this later, but here goes: The Jeff Kaiser Trio Jeff Kaiser, trumpet and electronics Woody Aplanalp, guitars and electronics/looping Steuart Liebig, basses and electronics/looping (i'm running three for these gigs) Big Sur Experimental Music Festival May 20-21 http://www.henrymiller.org/Events/BSXMF/bsxmf.html we're on at 5:00 p.m. on saturday the 20th - - though i'd be surprised if we really went on at that time (festival schedules and all of that). should also be doing the group improv thing on sunday at 1:00 p.m. stig