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I for one have neve been able to capture the FEELING of the Echoplex, the perfect real-time looper, while knowing that I multi-tracking. My approach is that I keep a liitle DAT and a stereo mic set up at all times. If I am drifting near to perfection I can hit the record button without disrupting the flow. I got this idea from Kim who told me once that the best wat to capture loops is through audio, not MIDI. Loopily, Kamlapati