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In addition to the DAT that I use, I am using a SP-808EX. It is very cool becuase you can add effects and modifiy the loop in other ways. But to make music with the SP-808 is so far more like work, not just play like with the EDP. I have only had it a month, and along with my new ACID program, I feel that I am in for quite a wild ride in the next few months.